caller: it affects all of us. if you go back to the 16th amendment and eliminate every withholding and deduction, the tax base would be so huge that some of us believe a single digit flat tax would generate enough revenue to pay the current budget and pay off this edebt. heidi: i'm sorry, i hit the butttop too early but we got the point. guest: it's bredening the tax rate. that's known as tax reform, and republicans want to do that they want to use this as leverage to do tax reform next yearing republicans want to to that to improve their brand, because they're the tax cutting brand and they want to be known as the tax reform party. so keep watching, maybe something will happen, though it's hard to get rid of any credit or deduction because there are a lot of powerful interests mind it and a lot of them like the mortgage interest deduction. host: there's been talk at one point, like in 2011, about a grand scheme and big plan. again, december 6, today? guest: still talking about it. host: with some seriousness? gue